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イラクで邦人3人が拘束されたことに思う

 テロが相次ぐイラクで、日本人3人が拘束された。この件についての最初の私の思いは、私自身のサイトにある「てっちゃん@Hatena」で触れた。簡単にいえば、「今回の邦人拘束」と、「自衛隊撤退」の2つの問題を同じ問題として、扱うべきではないということです。

 私の立場を言えば、今回の自衛隊派遣には「反対」です。
 憲法9条の実質的な改憲であり、9条の見直しがされないまま、安全保障に関する明示的な規定もないまま、わが国では有事立法が相次いで制定されました。イラク特措法もその一つであり、自衛隊派遣はその分かりやすい形として浮上していたにすぎません。

 しかしながら、今回拘束された日本人3人は、そうした政府の立場を十分知っていたと思います。さらに、イラク国内外のグループが「日本」や「日本人」をテロのターゲットにしていることも理解していたことでしょう。その理解のうえで、3人はあえて、イラクに入国したわけです。そもそも危険な地域に行くわけですから、リスクもつきものであり、そのリスクは「命を落とす」「拘束される」などがあることは、おそらく本人たちが分かっていたはずです。そのリスクを伴わなければ、戦争取材も、戦地での救助活動はできないわけです。
 
 たしかに、私は邦人3人は救われるべきだと思います。少なくとも3人は、日本政府を代表していない。自衛隊の派遣にも反対だった。しかも、少なくとも2人はジャーナリストの資格で、イラクに入国している。ジャーナリストであるのなら、しかも、自衛隊派遣に反対しているジャーナリストならなおさら、こうした状況にある場合、国家による救済に頼るべきではないと思う。

 もちろん、日本政府の仕事には「邦人保護」があるため、人命最優先になるべきであることはわかる。しかし、今回、邦人3人を拘束しているグループは、実態のつかめない。どこに交渉のチャンネルが存在するかもあいまいで、事実上、中東の衛星テレビ局「アルジャジーラ」がその窓口になっている。しかし、そこで報道される情報も確実とは言えないものばかりだ。事実上、政府が何かをすることがほとんどできない。できないということは、仮に自衛隊を撤退させたところで、邦人保護ができるかどうかも曖昧になる。

 となれば、事実上、政府によるものではなく、アルジャジーラに何を流すのか、が交渉相手であるグループに影響力があるのだろう。たとえば、日本ビジュアルジャーナリスト協会(代表、広河隆一)は、日本政府への声明文も出しているが、イラク国内への働きかけをもしている。つまり、3人の保護に積極的になるのは、戦場取材をするジャーナリストを含む、ジャーナリズム全般ではないか。政府以上に、動く必要があるのではないか。

しかし、特に企業ジャーナリズムの側にその積極性は見られない。戦争が起きれば、フリーにまかせ、社内記者を撤退させる日本の「ジャーナリズム」。いつまでも、フリーばかり危険な場に行かせるのか。そこにフリージャーナリストが戦場取材をする隙があるとえいば、あるのだが。ただ、そうしたジャーナリストたちの仕事を載せる媒体は少なくとも共同作業をしているわけで、戦争とジャーナリズムのあり方をもう一度見直して欲しいと思う。

 こうしたうえで、「自衛隊の即時撤退」は別の問題として考えるべきです。

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たびたび失礼いたします。
いま、渋井さんはバーテンのお仕事中でしょうか。
お疲れさまです。ぜひお店にうかがいたいなーと思いつつ、自宅で残業中の松本です。

〈てっちゃん@HATENA〉では、「ご無沙汰してます。」以降「たしかに。」「やっぱり…」「どこぞの官僚も」と書き込ませていただきました。なんだか数が多すぎて、ストーカーかクレーマーみたいですね(笑)。

ところで、僕の読解力不足からか、やっぱりよくわからないので教えていただければ、と。

まずは「ご無沙汰してます。」中で訂正です。「拉致被害者たちがどう思っているかは分かりませんが、最低でも家族・支援者は彼らを助けるために、政府の詭弁を許さない態度を貫き、それを犯行グループに示す必要があるかな、と。」の「政府の詭弁を許さない態度を貫き」は、「政府の詭弁を利用して」に変更します。

ではお忙しいところ恐縮ですが、もう一点だけお付き合いを。

〈てっちゃん@ココログ〉中、広河隆一氏の声明以降は、ほぼ同意見です。フリージャーナリストを都合よく使って、あとは使い捨て同様の大手メディアの現状は、ホンット腹立たしい。何より先に、自分たちも救出へ向けた動きを活発にすべきっていいたい。さらに、今後の危険地域への取材の方法、フリージャーナリストの記事への対価と評価など、メディアは考えるべきことがいっぱいあると思います。

が、それより前の部分に、ちょっと質問があります。

つまり「ジャーナリストであるのなら、しかも、自衛隊派遣に反対しているジャーナリストならなおさら、こうした状況にある場合、国家による救済に頼るべきではないと思う。」の部分です。これはどういう意味でしょうか。それは「自己責任だ」として彼らを切り捨てることとどう違うのでしょう。

反権力で行動するからには、権力者に頼らなくてもいいように準備するべき。もしも権力側に頼ると、つけこまれる隙を与える、という意味かな、と仮定して話を進めます。(間違ってたらすみません)

たとえば、先月休刊した「噂の真相」。これまで、この雑誌は反権力の砦ともいうべき存在だったと思います。
「噂真」史に残る大きな事件は、「皇室ポルノ事件」と「編集部襲撃事件」でしょう。後者において編集部は、ご存知の通り、警察に通報しました。

さて、それで「噂真」の警察批判が鈍ったか。
僕が見る限り、そんなことはなかったと思います。むしろそれをネタにして、自らの方針を貫いていたように見えました。

ジャーナリストはこのくらいの“したたかさ”がある方がいいのではないかと考えます。フリーであるなら、なおさらです。たとえ友人であろうと親兄弟であろうと、スキャンダルを暴くようなジャーナリストの記事こそ、むしろ読みたい(僕はジャーナリストではなく、むしろそのオコボレをあずかるような立場なので、ずいぶん身勝手ですが、お許しを)。
今日は楽しく酒を飲みながらネタを拾い、明日は批判記事を書く――というのは、生き馬の目を抜くこの業界では普通にあることです。

ちなみにジャーナリストが取材する動機は、反権力でも正義のためでも金のためでも功名心でも、どうでもいいです。

今回に限った場合、政府の考えがどうであろうと、個人的には自衛隊派兵の前提が崩れているように見えます。
そして、いま自衛隊撤退を求めているのは、彼らの家族であり、支援者たちです。親兄弟、支援者たちの多くは一般市民でしょう。
現時点で囚われの身にある被害者たちは自己責任を痛感しているかもしれませんが、まあそんなことは、現時点では、やはり関係ないことです。

そうだとすれば、自衛隊撤退の声が大きくなるのも当然。と、いうより、政府が武装グループに働きかける方法はそれしかない。米軍を動かすという選択肢は逆効果になる可能性が高く、また渋井さんのおっしゃるように「政府が何かをすることがほとんどできない。」からこそ、自衛隊の撤退だけでもやっとけよって話なのでは?

…ってなわけで疑問点は、「ジャーナリストであるのなら、しかも、自衛隊派遣に反対しているジャーナリストならなおさら、こうした状況にある場合、国家による救済に頼るべきではないと思う。」の真意です。
「反権力(または完全な中立)を貫くためには、親兄弟、友人たちまでも腹をくくれ。国に頼っちゃいけないんだ」という意味に読めてしまったわけです。

Posted by: 松本良次 | 2004.04.14 at 12:30 AM

>松本さん
 まず、自己責任問題について。
 今回の問題は、戦争取材ということの特殊事情がからみます。日本政府は、イラク戦争を支持したことによるものがあります。つまり、政府は暴力にによる死を肯定した状況があります。そのため、その渦中でなにがあっても、政府は「暴力による死」それ自体から、救助することが難しい立場をとっています。戦争当事国とほぼ同じで、ましてジャーナリストやNGOの人命よりも、自衛隊の活動を優先するだろうことが明らかに予想されるのです。そのなかにあえて、活動しようとするのですから、国家に保護を求める権利はもちろんありますが、一般国民が拘束された場合よりも、リスクを背負って活動している覚悟があるはずです。
 反権力の問題について。
 たしかに「噂真」の問題は、ジャーナリズムと権力との関係を考える上で、ひとつのヒントを示しているでしょうね。しかし、「反権力」というときに、権力を批判的に検証すること、権力を監視することがふくまれるでしょう。噂真の警察権力の関係は、日常生活において、暴力を否定的に態度をとっている警察権力の正常な監視を自らの取材活動にも適応させた、という意味ではチェック機能を働かせています。
 一方で、今回のイラクでの拘束の問題は、イラク戦争を支持し、アメリカ中心の占領政策をも支持したという日本政府の立場があるわけです。つまり、そこでは、国内においての権力のチェック機能とは明らかに違ったスタンスが必要になる。国内で暴力にさらされた場合の保護よりも、戦争地域または占領地域での権力のチェックのほうがリスクが多いわけです。しかも、国外ですので、政府権力がおよばないこともあるわけです。

 今回の拘束と、自衛隊撤退を絡めることについて。
 すでに3人は解放されました。犯行グループ側は当初、人質解放と自衛隊撤退をからめていました。しかし結果的に、自衛隊が撤退せずに、解放されました。こうした場合、両方の問題をセットにした立場では。今後の問題を考えにくい。やはり、人質問題は解放で決着はあったが、自衛隊問題は未解決です。別に考えているからこそ、解放されても、自衛隊問題はそれ自体で考えるべきなのです。

 家族や友人の心情について。
 ジャーナリストやNGOメンバー当事者とは、別の感情を抱くのは当然でしょう。腹をくくれとは言いません。彼ら彼女らが国家に頼りたがるのは気持ちはわからないでもありません。

Posted by: てっちゃん | 2004.04.16 at 11:32 PM

本当に、たびたび失礼します。お返事、どうもありがとうございます!
お忙しいところ恐縮です。

ちょっと思うところがあって、掲示板も拝見したのですが、
「わたしのサイトで議論は好みませんが、議論っぽくなったことを理由に削除したケースは少ないです。」
とあったので、僕が、この少ないケースに該当して、お返事はいただけないものかと思ってました。
勘違いしていたようで。どうもすみません。

ただ、ここのお返事を読む限り、渋井さんは、そうとうお疲れのご様子ですね。渋井さんのご著書は、お送りいただいたものも含め、けっこう読んでいるはずなのですが、なんだか別の人が書き込んだような印象を受けました。

ちなみに僕も、いまちょっぴり酔っ払っております。いやはや、忙しいときほど酒量がかさむのは、アルコール依存症の一歩手前かもしれませんね。

ではでは、またご連絡差し上げまーす。

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